Sometimes I just can't stand the forums...people can sit there and act like they are experts about everything if they want. They knock products they have never tried, make assumptions, and even trash companies..honest companies...companies that have made it to where they are out of love for the sport of mountain biking. Why trash a company that has good people, good design, and the customers' well-being in the forefront of their mind when any decision is made? I just don't get it. How much have these flamers given back to the sport..besides complaining? I wonder. Sometimes it's really frustrating.